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	<title>Comments on: Total Revamp of Federal Rules of Civil Procedure?</title>
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		<title>By: The Tipping Point for the ACC Value Challenge &#124; E-Discovery Resources &#38; Information - DiscoveryResources.org</title>
		<link>http://www.discoveryresources.org/library/case-law-and-rules/total-revamp-of-federal-rules-of-civil-procedure/#comment-1671</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tipping Point for the ACC Value Challenge &#124; E-Discovery Resources &#38; Information - DiscoveryResources.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The American College of Trial Lawyers report underscores this concern, which will be addressed in potential changes to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure at a meeting of the Rules committee at Duke University in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Supreme Court Uses Terrorist Case to Mandate Fact Pleading &#124; E-Discovery Resources &#38; Information - DiscoveryResources.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supreme Court Uses Terrorist Case to Mandate Fact Pleading &#124; E-Discovery Resources &#38; Information - DiscoveryResources.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I discussed in my April column and on my Sound Evidence blog on DiscoveryResources.org, the changes recommended by the trial [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Treese</title>
		<link>http://www.discoveryresources.org/library/case-law-and-rules/total-revamp-of-federal-rules-of-civil-procedure/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Treese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 19:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk to virtually any CIO who has a scintilla of legal and eDiscovery knowledge, and if you can get a frank answer, you&#039;ll hear that no company has any reasonably complete view of the ESI that was created, destroyed or distributed within the LAST 24 HOURS, let alone in aggregate. A scary reality is that most technology-equipped corporate custodians rely on Windows search just to find files on their own hard drive. And a significant percentage have no idea that the spreadsheet they just created and distributed in email contains discoverable ESI that they &quot;SQL&#039;ed&quot; out of the company&#039;s customer database. Many have no idea that the retention schedule for paper documents (which they follow religiously, under threat of unemployment) probably applies to the same information in digital form. Or that they (individuals) often have the only opportunity - and potentially, responsibility - for managing the legal requirements for retention of ESI which is in their control.

The problem isn&#039;t the rules, it&#039;s that information - especially digital - in many companies is not managed with the same rigor and discipline as other &quot;liquid&quot; (read: &quot;having street value&quot;) assets. As a simple example, can you imagine a scenario where reimbursable expenses are &quot;managed&quot; by a company&#039;s &quot;cash custodians&quot; with the same lack of controls as its ESI? Where simple protections - like knowing where it all is, and having individual accountability for its proper use - are left to chance or (worse) not understood by, or expected from,  persons with access? We don&#039;t expect the CFO to individually hold responsibility for every employees&#039; proper use of (and accounting for) the company&#039;s expense funds, yet many companies act as if the GC and the CIO should (and can) accurately account for all ESI and the actions of custodians who handled it during a specific timeframe. 

ESI is evidence. Just because there are mountains of it doesn&#039;t mean its value in adjudicating a dispute is somehow diminished. If you buy the notion that the courts&#039; ability to discern &quot;what is true&quot; is a valid and proper function in a world where parties can (and often do) disagree, then the parties in whose control the evidence exists have a fundamental obligation to manage it effectively, and to be capable of accurately accounting for its use. Companies that &quot;do&quot; information management well, while still in the minority, have no need to fear eDiscovery: they&#039;re too busy reaping other benefits - like freedom from &quot;data breaches&quot;, sound business-intelligence leverage and compliance with a myriad of regulatory requirements, to name a just a sample that should resonate with corporate officers like the GC.

Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater here. The value of  FRCP’s role in quantifying the pervasive state of ESI “chaos” should not  be lost in a misguided effort to “fix” the symptoms -  clogged court calendars and bloated eDiscovery budgets  - of litigants’ poor information-management practices. Ms. Mack is dead-on in her observation that simply rewriting the rules will “move the problem” from today’s meet-and-confer to the proposed preservation and early production steps. Do we really want another courthouse meltdown when the alternative – addressing the real root issue of information management while staying the course on FRCP – provides such huge upside potential, far beyond just the legal benefits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk to virtually any CIO who has a scintilla of legal and eDiscovery knowledge, and if you can get a frank answer, you&#8217;ll hear that no company has any reasonably complete view of the ESI that was created, destroyed or distributed within the LAST 24 HOURS, let alone in aggregate. A scary reality is that most technology-equipped corporate custodians rely on Windows search just to find files on their own hard drive. And a significant percentage have no idea that the spreadsheet they just created and distributed in email contains discoverable ESI that they &#8220;SQL&#8217;ed&#8221; out of the company&#8217;s customer database. Many have no idea that the retention schedule for paper documents (which they follow religiously, under threat of unemployment) probably applies to the same information in digital form. Or that they (individuals) often have the only opportunity &#8211; and potentially, responsibility &#8211; for managing the legal requirements for retention of ESI which is in their control.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t the rules, it&#8217;s that information &#8211; especially digital &#8211; in many companies is not managed with the same rigor and discipline as other &#8220;liquid&#8221; (read: &#8220;having street value&#8221;) assets. As a simple example, can you imagine a scenario where reimbursable expenses are &#8220;managed&#8221; by a company&#8217;s &#8220;cash custodians&#8221; with the same lack of controls as its ESI? Where simple protections &#8211; like knowing where it all is, and having individual accountability for its proper use &#8211; are left to chance or (worse) not understood by, or expected from,  persons with access? We don&#8217;t expect the CFO to individually hold responsibility for every employees&#8217; proper use of (and accounting for) the company&#8217;s expense funds, yet many companies act as if the GC and the CIO should (and can) accurately account for all ESI and the actions of custodians who handled it during a specific timeframe. </p>
<p>ESI is evidence. Just because there are mountains of it doesn&#8217;t mean its value in adjudicating a dispute is somehow diminished. If you buy the notion that the courts&#8217; ability to discern &#8220;what is true&#8221; is a valid and proper function in a world where parties can (and often do) disagree, then the parties in whose control the evidence exists have a fundamental obligation to manage it effectively, and to be capable of accurately accounting for its use. Companies that &#8220;do&#8221; information management well, while still in the minority, have no need to fear eDiscovery: they&#8217;re too busy reaping other benefits &#8211; like freedom from &#8220;data breaches&#8221;, sound business-intelligence leverage and compliance with a myriad of regulatory requirements, to name a just a sample that should resonate with corporate officers like the GC.</p>
<p>Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater here. The value of  FRCP’s role in quantifying the pervasive state of ESI “chaos” should not  be lost in a misguided effort to “fix” the symptoms &#8211;  clogged court calendars and bloated eDiscovery budgets  &#8211; of litigants’ poor information-management practices. Ms. Mack is dead-on in her observation that simply rewriting the rules will “move the problem” from today’s meet-and-confer to the proposed preservation and early production steps. Do we really want another courthouse meltdown when the alternative – addressing the real root issue of information management while staying the course on FRCP – provides such huge upside potential, far beyond just the legal benefits?</p>
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		<title>By: Cary Calderone, Esquire</title>
		<link>http://www.discoveryresources.org/library/case-law-and-rules/total-revamp-of-federal-rules-of-civil-procedure/#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary Calderone, Esquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be a case of &quot;If it isn&#039;t fixed, break it again.&quot;  While there are many issues and difficulties around electronic discovery, not all can be blamed on technology challenged counsel and gamesmanship.  Let&#039;s not forget that not all judges are techno-wizards either and that is part of the problem.  The F.R.C.P. rules for eDiscovery have not been around for very long and the software and email management applications are just now adopting the features necessary to manage diverse sets of ESI by its related content.  Previously, email content was managed only as it related to email and not Word docs or spreadsheets or databases, etc. etc.  Give the application vendors a little more time, and the corporate clients a little more time to upgrade, and there will be no need to change our entire philosophy of litigation discovery.  Unless of course, you truly believe that will be a simple and painless solution...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be a case of &#8220;If it isn&#8217;t fixed, break it again.&#8221;  While there are many issues and difficulties around electronic discovery, not all can be blamed on technology challenged counsel and gamesmanship.  Let&#8217;s not forget that not all judges are techno-wizards either and that is part of the problem.  The F.R.C.P. rules for eDiscovery have not been around for very long and the software and email management applications are just now adopting the features necessary to manage diverse sets of ESI by its related content.  Previously, email content was managed only as it related to email and not Word docs or spreadsheets or databases, etc. etc.  Give the application vendors a little more time, and the corporate clients a little more time to upgrade, and there will be no need to change our entire philosophy of litigation discovery.  Unless of course, you truly believe that will be a simple and painless solution&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Art Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.discoveryresources.org/library/case-law-and-rules/total-revamp-of-federal-rules-of-civil-procedure/#comment-1019</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem as I see it is not a clogging of the courts.  It is the scorched earth application of the e-discovery rules which is causing the cause of litigation to skyrocket.  In the &quot;old days&quot; of paper discovery, the costs of searching for relevant evidence was reasonably manageable if you knew your custodians and could find their file cabinets.  Now, often the entire corporate universel of ESI must be searched, leading to expensive document reviews, increased time for production and generally burdening the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem as I see it is not a clogging of the courts.  It is the scorched earth application of the e-discovery rules which is causing the cause of litigation to skyrocket.  In the &#8220;old days&#8221; of paper discovery, the costs of searching for relevant evidence was reasonably manageable if you knew your custodians and could find their file cabinets.  Now, often the entire corporate universel of ESI must be searched, leading to expensive document reviews, increased time for production and generally burdening the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.discoveryresources.org/library/case-law-and-rules/total-revamp-of-federal-rules-of-civil-procedure/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused by the trial lawyers assertion that they are  &quot;overwhelmed by clogged courts as a result of increased litigation, discovery in general and e-discovery in particular&quot;.  Statistics from the National Center for State Courts indicate that the number of cases filed every year has been declining for several years, beginning before the FRCP amendments. 
At the same time, noted jurists such as Judges Fasciola and Grimm continue to point the lack of understanding of even the most basic technology, let alone e-discovery, concepts by attorneys appearing before them.
So where does the clogging come from? As I pointed out on my blog a while back, it may be the archer and not the arrows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused by the trial lawyers assertion that they are  &#8220;overwhelmed by clogged courts as a result of increased litigation, discovery in general and e-discovery in particular&#8221;.  Statistics from the National Center for State Courts indicate that the number of cases filed every year has been declining for several years, beginning before the FRCP amendments.<br />
At the same time, noted jurists such as Judges Fasciola and Grimm continue to point the lack of understanding of even the most basic technology, let alone e-discovery, concepts by attorneys appearing before them.<br />
So where does the clogging come from? As I pointed out on my blog a while back, it may be the archer and not the arrows.</p>
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